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bazibbo · 30-03-2012, 01:54 PM

Weather and car fixed permitting, I might have a go at the run what you brung, or the bugs vs minis at York this bank holiday weekend. I kinda suspect that this will be the start of the end, and I'll end up an addict.

I'm a tad worried about trashing my standard gearbox but at the other end of the scale, don't want to leave the line like a dairy farmer.

Other than preloading the box with a kind of hill start, handbrake holding episode, and a slightly 'gentle' use of the throttle until I'm in second, is there anything alse I ought to be doing?

Mechanically I'm running standard rubber mounts on a KG 1600 swingarm box and I aint going to get time to upgrade them. The only upgrade to the drivetrain is a kenedy stage one with a Daiken solid clutch plate and i'm hopeing to be around 150 hp from a turbo'd 1914.

Should I consider a mid or front bolt on strap?

spannermanager · 30-03-2012, 05:58 PM

It will tramp like a food mixer, in the short time you have left yourself to sort the car, all you can do now is either strap it up well with bolt ons, or add a traction bar, both will be good if you can, you have enough power there to break the 'box, you must do something or cry.

US Spec · 30-03-2012, 08:20 PM

dont worry too much about your box. with that amount of HP just run it for now and if it does go just get it to 63ragtop near stoke and get it sorted. cheaper than you may think.

a gearbox strap or mid mount (also available from 63ragtop) will help far more than a traction bar but more is usually better.

get out there and enjoy some racing!

Dead Dog · 30-03-2012, 11:16 PM

as above, try to get it strapped before, but if not hey go enjoy it.
pre-load as you've said.

andy198712 · 31-03-2012, 01:35 AM

Can someone explain strapping?

Thanks

bazibbo · 31-03-2012, 11:01 AM

Ta guys, How about this kind of thing, is it a suitable budget offering

http://www.machine7.com/product.php?xProd=654&xSec=405

Which is a strap around the front off the gearbox Andy. It looks like the rear strap needs an engine out to fit, which isn't horrendous but it's looking like I won't be getting the car back until last minute.

Longer term I need to decide what to do, it is a road car at the end of the day, so don't want to get too noisy.

bazibbo · 31-03-2012, 11:15 AM

Actually, it looks like the rear one could slip in if I get a jack under it. Anyone know?

So I could slip the top straps off for day to day stuff, then pop them back on for the strip.

MowAddict · 31-03-2012, 11:59 AM

The front one will requre some clearance to the inside of the frame horns as bolt will foul if its the same as the bugpack one. I've always found the rear one is a right arse and as you've not got mych time use the front strap and a traction bar.

good luck!

bazibbo · 31-03-2012, 12:09 PM

Thanks, I'll let you know how it goes.

I'm kinda avoiding the traction bar as all my turbo and plumbing sits in a similar position, though there's probably a way round it.

Dead Dog · 31-03-2012, 03:10 PM

Yeah I ran a traction bar, but then I went to solid mounts so didn't bother
I welded a bracket on to my bar and made it so it cleared all the turbo nonsense and bolted in the bottom center hole to sorta locate it

The front strap (/forward most) is quite a pain to get to, and I also had to mod the frame horns to get it where it should be, once the straps are on, just leave them on, saves messing about.