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Old 01-02-2006, 09:35 PM   #1
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Default Making bay/944 window dropped spindle

Ive got hold of some 944 front spindles, mainly for the hub carrier on them, but its got me thinking. Has anyone ever investigated flattening off the back of the 944 spindles, skimming the bay window spindle and removing the spike thing (whats it called you know the bit with the bearings on it!) then bolting and welding the two together in an offset position to make a home brewed dropped spindle?

Admitadly there is some heavy duty welding etc required to make it safe and some careful measuring involved. Just thinking out loud really and looking for input. I understand that most bay window dropped spindles are made from 2 sets welded together so why not make them from part bay window and part 944 spindles, then you can use standard bearing etc to mount proka wheels and have a nice mouting for 944 calipers etc...

Anyone got any ideas?
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Old 01-02-2006, 09:44 PM   #2
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just not feeling the idea of welding spindles. i've heard of welded t1 spindles cracking . t2 a lot heavier
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Old 01-02-2006, 09:51 PM   #3
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[IMG]a bit of stuff that

-lets you use a stock bay spindle - 73 on
-with its stock dust plate -cut to clear caliper

-using a stock 944 hub

-sell you a custom disc

-sell you caliper adaptors, that let you use 996 or boxter
radial mounted mono block brembos using the stock porsche allen heads, the adaptors mount to the spindle with a machines 60 degree taper bolt


2 discs 2 adaptors 295

-oh ps you use the stock 944 grease seals

oh and the stock 944 caps -for speedo drive


plus you also get grooved discs in the kit as STOCK

-looks something like this


ps 944 hubs are used 100 use stock type 2 bearings

-996/boxter 4 pot pressure cast monoblock all alloy radial mounting calipers are about 200 a pair - worth noting still in production, and also worth noting may not need blasting and powder coating and rebuilding

-also note though - pads pins and clips for a pair are 168 pounds



oh and the pist of resistance is

-THEY FIT A 15 INCH RIM - - the caliper clears by one inch

-oh and also worth noting, look at the price for 944 1986 turbo discs
-they are about 120 pounds each

-these discs supplied in the kit, are of a similar size


-oh and ppps with sugar on the top - 944 rear discs with the same groovelligience pattern, are available, but again just coz they say porsch on them, they are well dear!
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Default oh and

-the type 2 spindle is forged as one unit
-no the spindle part isnt even pushed into the spindle body after forgeing

-yes one lump, it is then centred and spun, one side drilled for speedo drive, the threads put in

-what rod would you use when tig'ing them
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i had some done for my old fasty- i did the machine work myself, incuding bolting them together in the correct position, then got them tigged and x-rayed by the techy boffins at uni for nowt

they had about 2" drop built in, and were sweet as. even id be dubious of doing on a bus that weighs twice as much though.....
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it doesn't help with the lowered aspect but i do a kit to fit 944 single pot calipers and vented discs straight onto an early bay balljoint spindle.See my link below.
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any ideas?!...

it'll work.. just be sensible about it...

take it to a GOOD welding shop... doesnt have to be large and commercialised!!...

talk to htem about it and maybe get them to arc weld it up.. see firedancer for a pic of his spindles...

yes, theyre beetle ones.. but the welding on them was superb and well worth the price he paid.. they suggested using a stick welder.. and, imho.. were right on the money!

good luck!
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Cheers for all your answers - the van is off the road being restored at present so not requiring any brake kits just yet.

I too am abit dubious about welded dropped spindles on a bus, but have heard the ones for sale through busstation etc are welded, anyone got any experience of them?
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The only people that don't do welded 1's are http://www.slammedpanel.com/ They can be contacted on: slammedpanel AT gmail.com. He does take quite a while to reply....was going to get some but they cost 450 euros plus 35 euro p&p and i needed other stuff more. He's in holland.

PS they don't increase the track either.

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talk to htem about it and maybe get them to arc weld it up.. see firedancer for a pic of his spindles...
Here are mine:


ARC welded with the strongest rod they had (for girders!) and good for 4 tons. The spindle will break before the weld!

BTW the pro welding dudes said that MIG and TIG were no good for welding them, it had to be ARC. Amazingly neat job the guy made of them for ARC welding!
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