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Old 30-11-2007, 08:42 PM   #31
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Ive been pondering on bike engines for a while. There are far more options than just inline jap 4 bangers. you could go flat twin, four or six. I was thinking about the aftermarket harley lumps, you can get a 127 ci engine that puts out 145 hp and 140 ftlbs torque. I dont know how that stacks up against vw motors, more horses and im guessing more torque. Less longevity and reliability though I guess. And one costs as much as a well put together vw engine, but you can get a ready made kit to bolt it onto your vw box from people like boom or rewaco who make trikes.
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Old 19-12-2007, 09:31 PM   #33
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I passed one of those Harley powered trikes on the M6 a few months ago. I followed it for quite a while trying to see how it was done. It did appear to be a V twin on a Beetle box, and also appeared to be very well built. It sounded awesome too.
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Old 21-12-2007, 02:32 PM   #34
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Ealier in thethread somebody mentioned zcars near Hull.

I bought a 1776 motor off them that they had taken out of a Chesil and replaced with the Hayabusa engine. Unfortunately the guy wrote it off on the way back from Le Mans within a couple of weeks.

Went out for a spin in one of their specialities - a Hayabusa engined Mini - absolute flying machine!

They were also putting a Skyline engine in a TVR Cerbera whilst I was there.

Well worth having a look.

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Old 21-12-2007, 05:00 PM   #35
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:20 AM   #36
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The major issue with bike engines in cars is lack of torque at low revs, my 1150 bmw rockster develops 92bhp at the wheel, after tweeks, and my 1100 guzzi cally motor gives 80bhp. I have many fours but dont think any of them would be any good in a car, twins would be best. The other, major issue is oil starvation, with racing sidecar engines the sump has the problem where when cornering the oil slops to one side of the sump, bikes lean and so the centrifugal force pushes the oil downward not sideways when cornering. With sidecar outfits the sump needs to be BAFFLED by putting plates with holes in lengthways along the sump to reduce the effect of the oil slopping away from the pick up. I have a zzr1100 with leading link forks and a modern two seater chair on it, I use that to ferry my three year old about so heavy handed cornering is less of a problem. I have seen 120 on the motorway though, Without my son of course, as thats when I bottled it. 160 when she was solo was easy.
She may soon be for sale to fund a t25 camper. These vws are taking over slowly.
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The major issue with bike engines in cars is lack of torque at low revs, my 1150 bmw rockster develops 92bhp at the wheel, after tweeks, and my 1100 guzzi cally motor gives 80bhp. I have many fours but dont think any of them would be any good in a car, twins would be best. The other, major issue is oil starvation, with racing sidecar engines the sump has the problem where when cornering the oil slops to one side of the sump, bikes lean and so the centrifugal force pushes the oil downward not sideways when cornering. With sidecar outfits the sump needs to be BAFFLED by putting plates with holes in lengthways along the sump to reduce the effect of the oil slopping away from the pick up. I have a zzr1100 with leading link forks and a modern two seater chair on it, I use that to ferry my three year old about so heavy handed cornering is less of a problem. I have seen 120 on the motorway though, Without my son of course, as thats when I bottled it. 160 when she was solo was easy.
She may soon be for sale to fund a t25 camper. These vws are taking over slowly.
Some bike engines are more suitable in cars than others for the reasons stated above. Generally, the longatudial engines such as those found on boxter BMWs and Honda Goldwings are better suited because the crank runs in the same direction as a bug and oil starvation is less of an issue under acceleration and braking. If you have to rotate an engine, that's where the problems start.

This has a BMW bike engine in it:

And I always wondered what it would look like with a Beetle body over it... That would be mad! A 3-wheeled Beetle streamliner!
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The guys at Radical sports cars Peterborough use dry sump systems on their bike powered cars.
They also developed a V8 bike engine a few years back,,,, think it was for a Le Mans car,, my buddy who works for them said it was based on two Suzuki engines,, I know they put out over 350bhp & sound awsome.

Almost everything is done in house at their Peterborough factory, even the rolling road to set em up.

Good guys to contact maybe
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The guys at Radical sports cars Peterborough use dry sump systems on their bike powered cars.
They also developed a V8 bike engine a few years back,,,, think it was for a Le Mans car,, my buddy who works for them said it was based on two Suzuki engines,, I know they put out over 350bhp & sound awsome.

Almost everything is done in house at their Peterborough factory, even the rolling road to set em up.

Good guys to contact maybe
Local to me too , thanks for the tip off
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Driven one of those grinnall scorpians, silver three wheeler pictured, they are ace, REALLY ACE. At the time we had a lomax 'simlar layout but 2cv powered' somehow it felt shite afterwards!
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