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devonduboy 30-09-2010 09:38 PM

id like to learn to weld. (devon, cornwall)
 
hi, basically i thought i would ask if anyone out there wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction in learning to weld?

i have got a 130 mig and have used it a fair bit but can't get consistent penetration and am not happy with the way my welds are going and think i need a helping hand from someone who knows what they are doing.

obviously would pay.

id like to learn mig welding in general but any other types of welding could be good too but not essential.
i am learning for panel replacement (thin metals)

i have a barn in cornwall (near bodmin) where my beetle lives which we could use or a house in cullompton devon. or i could come to yours.

just thought i would see if anyone could help me out?

cheers
jon

Till 01-10-2010 07:43 AM

Unfotunately i live in Kent so won't be able to come down and help but when i left school i started at a local garage and my boss offered to teach me a bit of mig welding. He gave me a bit of sheet metal and just told me to learn to write my name in weld, this gives you hand control and trains your eye look at what you're welding. Start with a low setting first so the weld sits proud on the metal then turn up the power up in stages to get the weld flatter, ie more penetration.
Use 0.6mm wire as 0.8 is too thick for thin steel and get a gas set up not that gasless wire,although some people can do quite nice welds with it i've never been able to.
Where ever possible support your torch with your spare hand to stop you wobbling about and try to push the weld rather than pull (although pushing is not always possible)
As with most jobs preperation is the key, so spend that little bit extra time cleaning the job before you start.

This is just how i started welding and is just the basics,other people will have other tips and it's just a case of pratice makes perfect and finding what works for you.

Have fun,Ade

devonduboy 01-10-2010 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Till (Post 7273628)
Unfotunately i live in Kent so won't be able to come down and help but when i left school i started at a local garage and my boss offered to teach me a bit of mig welding. He gave me a bit of sheet metal and just told me to learn to write my name in weld, this gives you hand control and trains your eye look at what you're welding. Start with a low setting first so the weld sits proud on the metal then turn up the power up in stages to get the weld flatter, ie more penetration.
Use 0.6mm wire as 0.8 is too thick for thin steel and get a gas set up not that gasless wire,although some people can do quite nice welds with it i've never been able to.
Where ever possible support your torch with your spare hand to stop you wobbling about and try to push the weld rather than pull (although pushing is not always possible)
As with most jobs preperation is the key, so spend that little bit extra time cleaning the job before you start.

This is just how i started welding and is just the basics,other people will have other tips and it's just a case of pratice makes perfect and finding what works for you.

Have fun,Ade

thanks for the reply :)
very helpfull, what im finding most difficult is getting the right balance of wire feed and power.

it seems to either sit on the top or burn a hole right through, which leads me to think its probably my technique (timing, distance from metal etc.)
i know it is probably practice makes perfect, but i reckon if i can find someone to give me a hand and tell me where im going wrong it would help no end.

thanks again :)
jon

Hermann 02-10-2010 02:53 PM

Are you aware of this place ......

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/

Not the same as having someone there but very informative ....

+CountVladdy+ 02-10-2010 09:29 PM

Basically what Till has been saying dude. Just come back from my friends house where I've been welding his Bay window all day.
I taught myself to weld back in 1996 at the age of 19 when I first started restoring one of my bugs. Correct preparation is certainly one of the keys if the dreaded "spatter" is to be avoided.
Typical that I'm in the NW now as I would help you out for free if you were close.
There are quite few variables with it such as wire speed, angle at which you hold the torch, distance of wire tip from surface to be welded, ampage setting , speed at which you weld.
Is there a local club you can join as there would very likely be someone close that could help.
Good luck

Dan :bandit:

kafer-k 03-10-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by +CountVladdy+ (Post 7276900)
Is there a local club you can join as there would very likely be someone close that could help.
Good luck

Dan :bandit:

Hi Jon,

I'm in Butterleigh just round the corner from you and I've recently got a welder. I haven't been brave enough to give it a go just yet so will be needing to learn. I'm part of the Exeter Aircooled Club which have a forum and a monthly meet (next one on the 10th), it might be that we could get one of the other members to give us both a lesson? :)

Chris (and Tina)

devonduboy 03-10-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kafer-k (Post 7277568)
Hi Jon,

I'm in Butterleigh just round the corner from you and I've recently got a welder. I haven't been brave enough to give it a go just yet so will be needing to learn. I'm part of the Exeter Aircooled Club which have a forum and a monthly meet (next one on the 10th), it might be that we could get one of the other members to give us both a lesson? :)

Chris (and Tina)

hi chris (and tina)

yes im a member of exeter aircooled too (duboy)
not been brave enough to turn up to a meet yet though.
maybe i will on the 10th.
yes i cycle through butterleigh quite a bit and like stopping in the old inn :)
would be good to have a lesson with someone who knows what they are doing also be good to meet some more local dubbers.

do you have a project then or just thinking of getting one?

maybe ill stick up a thread on exeter aircooled forum unless you know of anyone inperticular.
i have only really met a few of them but would be good to meet more.

cheers
jon

kafer-k 03-10-2010 08:36 PM

We have a bug and a bay (see links in sig) and use the same username on the EAC forum. I didn't have anyone in mind from the club but we could stick something up on there and see who bites like you said. I've just realised we might not make the meet next Sunday as we'll probably be at Oktoberfest. If you fancy hooking up one evening for a quiet one at the Inn though drop us a pm otherwise come to the Nov meet perhaps :)

Chris

fruitcakes23 03-10-2010 09:15 PM

Hi there, maybe able to help, do you ever get down to torbay ?

torpointboy 04-10-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonduboy (Post 7272833)

i have a barn in cornwall (near bodmin)


Jon, Whereabouts mate, I know a few guys who might want to share storage, all vw lads, as there is a major shortage in the Saltash Area, or perhaps you know of something up that way going for rent

Steve -South East Cornwall dubs and custom Club


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