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Old 11-01-2015, 10:21 AM   #11
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Did the pub game for over ten years. Its tough. Unless you can devote your entire life to it and have a real passion for it I would avoid. You would stand a better chance as its a freehold and your not tied to a brewery or a pubco with crazy rents but if a big brand opens up nearby with prices you can't compete with your pretty much sunk.
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Old 11-01-2015, 10:39 AM   #12
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...and could you handle drunk desperate gents letching over your Mrs most nights while you have to stand there watching and smiling?
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Well you're only 'up the road' from me, literally. Have a look at some of the pubs down my neck of the woods that have closed and most of them had been well established/been there for yearrrrrrs pubs.

The Farmers Arms by Page Moss.
http://goo.gl/maps/kQmbD

The Eagle and Child at Page Moss.
http://goo.gl/maps/NSz4F

The Bow and Arrow on Princess Drive.
http://goo.gl/maps/NdtGA

The Blue Bell Inn, possibly the, or one of the oldest pubs in Huyton.
http://goo.gl/maps/lU6NZ

The Hillside.
http://goo.gl/maps/EvNKW

The Boundry.
http://goo.gl/maps/Fr8FM

The Dovecot.
http://goo.gl/maps/8MXsq

The Yew Tree,
http://goo.gl/maps/Ddxov
..the pub that was in start of the film 'The 51st State' and was supposed to be a Manc pub, that was behind the Bow and Arrow and is now a patch of bare land.

I'm not trying to put you off your dream, just saying, have a look around you and see if you have a good survival plan before you jump in.
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Don't do it, even if you do have a fantastic USP and location (which considering it's closed, and also that none of the brewery's etc have jumped on it, is very unlikely), it's still a very difficult business to make good money from.
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Quick update - we decided that we wouldn't rule it out without making further enquiries. So we did....
Premises are already sold (subject to contract)...
Ah well... maybe a lucky escape, but I don't think it's something we'd rule out in the future...
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That's the one!
Thought you meant scruffy murpheys, thats got an outside thing going on as well. Went there just before christmas
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Thought you meant scruffy murpheys, thats got an outside thing going on as well. Went there just before christmas
The only Scruffy Murphy's I know of is in Birmingham

I hardly ever go to Belfast to be fair
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Thought you meant scruffy murpheys, thats got an outside thing going on as well. Went there just before christmas

Must be a new pub that one.I haven't heard of it.
There seems to be a new pub opening nearly every week.
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It depends how you intend to secure it as well. Freehold (buying it) would allow you to source the beer and alcohol at a reasonable price, with a chance to make some money. Buying a tenancy or leasehold will tie you in with the brewery who will make you buy their beer at inflated prices, on top of having to pay them rent. This makes it very difficult to make any money.

The brewery's don't care though, they'll take £30k deposit off you, bleed you dry until you fold, keep the deposit and wait for the next mug to try and make a go of it. Then take their £30k deposit, bleed them dry etc.

It's the reason why so many pubs are closing, being sold and changed back to houses. They're not viable businesses for people to run and the breweries want them off their books.
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Quick update - we decided that we wouldn't rule it out without making further enquiries. So we did....
Premises are already sold (subject to contract)...
Ah well... maybe a lucky escape, but I don't think it's something we'd rule out in the future...
Take notice of the comments already posted here particularly from people who have been in the GAME.Its a feckin massive headache running a pub it will rule your life 24/7 and don't think it won't IT WILL.

Its a very difficult way to earn a living.I would avoid it like the plague.Its near impossible to find staff you can trust its just one big ball and chain.

If you still dream and think " oh but we would do things different blah blah,"go and ask as many publicans as you can and ask them if they had a chance would they get out of it ????

if you still insist on stitching yourselves up with a pub all I can say is whatever you do
1.DO NOT take on a pub that is owned by a pub company they will rob you blind.
2.Buy the premises/pub freehold
3 think long term 10 years plus
4.Be prepared to loose the lot if it goes belly up.
5.Cancel your holidays for the entire time you own/run the business.
Ask yourselves do you want to enter into a trade that is going tits up all over the country.

Sold it to ya yet ???

I would rather open a coffee shop.

Whatever you do think very carefully and last of all good luck with whatever you do.I don't know you both but YOUVE BEEN WARNED…..
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