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Old 22-02-2017, 08:03 PM   #71
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sorry you went through the pain of actually seeing it.
Hmm.........I'll be seeking compensation from you as you succeeded in making it appear on the page twice
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I'd say you're right but then you can't blame everything on the rules, which in essence are there because we've learned more and are starting to put a value on people's lives a bit more.

I'd say that people using the same packages to get the same results in terms of efficient aero, good visibility of stuff like lights, decent views around the car etc have a bit to play too.

And, frankly, we've not got a cache of good car designers out there anymore, using pencils and paper to then go on and make something out of foam and clay, which in turn becomes a car.

It's cheaper to use a CAD package and hire an operator, than to nurture a car designer and use their talent.
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I'd say you're right but then you can't blame everything on the rules, which in essence are there because we've learned more and are starting to put a value on people's lives a bit more.

I'd say that people using the same packages to get the same results in terms of efficient aero, good visibility of stuff like lights, decent views around the car etc have a bit to play too.

And, frankly, we've not got a cache of good car designers out there anymore, using pencils and paper to then go on and make something out of foam and clay, which in turn becomes a car.

It's cheaper to use a CAD package and hire an operator, than to nurture a car designer and use their talent.
Although i agree that you can tell a CAD designed car from an old fashioned clay model designed car, that doesn't mean that there are now CAD "designers" styling cars!
You now have to have a pretty serious amount of deformable structure ahead of the front wheels (and non-deformable motor), which looks pretty dumb on a small car.

Also really disagree about visibility on new cars - they all have tank destroying thick roof pillars that you have to crane your neck to look around and no rear visibility as a result of being stuffed full of headrests and having a tiny hatchback rear window. There's no question things have gone backwards since the days when thin pillars were sold as an active safety feature. Rather than the passive safety of thick pillars, which will certainly save you from the crash you wouldn't have had if you could have actually seen out of the car! Worse than that, they're really not at all elegant either.
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Although i agree that you can tell a CAD designed car from an old fashioned clay model designed car, that doesn't mean that there are now CAD "designers" styling cars!
You now have to have a pretty serious amount of deformable structure ahead of the front wheels (and non-deformable motor), which looks pretty dumb on a small car.
yup. now every car has to be designed to fit around the same engine/gearbox/suspension/impact zone layouts, so they are going to end up only looking superficially different.

in the olden days they'd design the bodywork from nothing and then produce bespoke mechanical parts to fit. on some cars even fitting an adult human inside was secondary to how the car looked.
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re rules bit
this company in surrey parallel designs did a miura had to change the front light treatment for iva.
http://www.paralleldesigns.co.uk/


another aston copy tho poss a bit more upmarket
http://www.asmotorsport.co.uk/index.html
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this company in surrey parallel designs did a miura had to change the front light treatment for iva.
http://www.paralleldesigns.co.uk/
Everyone who builds one will swap for a correct nose about five minutes after they pass the test. Makes you wonder why they even bother.
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agree with that , unsure if any of the bodies got made.
only saw it once at a show..


slightly swaying away from true replica , a modern take of a merc has caught my eye on a previously posted website

http://www.extremekitcars.com/merced...300-amg-retro/
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Hmm.........I'll be seeking compensation from you as you succeeded in making it appear on the page twice
no problem, forward my details to injury lawyers for you. They will pursue any old crap if there is blame there is a claim.
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agree with that , unsure if any of the bodies got made.
only saw it once at a show..


slightly swaying away from true replica , a modern take of a merc has caught my eye on a previously posted website

http://www.extremekitcars.com/merced...300-amg-retro/
That looks quite cool, until you see actual pics of some of their stuff. And then you notice the fibreglass splittie in the background:



EDIT - And is Sweeney still after a COE?
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