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Old 30-12-2019, 10:44 AM   #1
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Default Framehead beam bolt holes

Hope you all had a great Christmas.

Bought a Beetle chassis for a kit car I am building and the frame head is missing one of the bits that the beam bolts go into. Should be 4 of them, mine only has 3. I can probably lay my hands on one but not sure how the are secured in the frame head. They look to be welded at the rear, does anyone know if they are welded at the front too, or do they just rest against the front panel?

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Hope you all had a great Christmas.

Bought a Beetle chassis for a kit car I am building and the frame head is missing one of the bits that the beam bolts go into. Should be 4 of them, mine only has 3. I can probably lay my hands on one but not sure how the are secured in the frame head. They look to be welded at the rear, does anyone know if they are welded at the front too, or do they just rest against the front panel?

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They are fitted inside the frame head to stop the captive nut pulling through. I believe they were spot welded into place from the factory.

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Thanks Phil. I'll see how I can spot it in place without getting too busy with the angle grinder.

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Thanks Phil. I'll see how I can spot it in place without getting too busy with the angle grinder.

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I have a framehead cut open at the moment will dig it out and take a picture if needed?

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I have a framehead cut open at the moment will dig it out and take a picture if needed?


That would be great, thanks!


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This framehead had two failed threads this was partly due to corrosion but more because of a failed attempt during the past to drill out a snapped bolt
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The threaded tubes run through a strengthener before exiting the rear where they are welded
I would also assume they are welded at the front to the inner folded section behind the front beam section
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I have replaced one before using a starrette cutter and welding in a new threaded tube
Ive only had basic training in welding but have been welding up my cars for the past 30 years this is the only time it makes me nervous!
You need good metal around the insert to start with (it will have deteriorated) and good penetrating seamless welds around the sleeve
Of course all this is much easier with the body removed if possible
Ady on here moler volks rod thread on here had an excellent write up and pictorial explanation of frame head repair replacement extension
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Thanks for the pics, Skip*rat. I tried to look at the Moler thread but all the pics have disappeared. I've managed to locate an old framehead so will use that as a donor and break out the welder.

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After a lot of back and forth - beam on, beam off, trim a bit - repeat, repeat, repeat, new bit tacked in. Got a bit of fettling to do but should be all good once all finished.
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