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Old 17-08-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
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Having been away for a few days and just catching up . . . and in light of a couple of recent threads on here lately . . . a couple of suggestions if you decide to post a "XXXXX is shit, he/they ripped me off" thread . . .

1. Please stick to FACTS . . . hearsay and/or insults will get your thread locked or deleted. VZi is quite happy to 'go to bat' on others' behalf . . . but based on FACTS . . . not insults

2. Post using your EXISTING user name . . . 'first post wonders' are treated with suspicion. That's just a fact of life. Sorry.

3. Rival companies with axes to grind. Joining in on a serious complaint thread with "I told you all 87 years ago - I called them R.I.P.O.F.F. back then etc. etc." doesn't help things . . . OK Lee? I know your heart is in the right place but it doesn't help things dude

We'd prefer the injured party contact the trader/seller directly and keep it off the forums. However, we DO realise that a thread in Chat can produce borderline miraculous results (we've seen a lot of folk get a result thru' posting in Chat ) especially when the 'seller'/'trader' won't respond to emails etc. We are quite happy to host genuine complaints (without insults) whilst giving the 'other' party full right to respond too.

So . . . it's no use moaning about 'freedom of speech' if you abuse that 'freedom' . . . use it responsibly . . . stick to FACTS and you won't go far wrong.

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Old 25-08-2009, 11:14 AM   #2
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Morning Bri,First off i dont have any axe to grind and none of these rip off company,s are my rivals , they prove that not me.
My involvment comes from people that phone me and ask what they can do because they feel they cant post on here because the doo gooders will back up Mr nice guy, when as you well no Mr nice guy is usually a big fat con man, i think its pretty sad that the mods feel the need to make tags read differant things because of what i post.

Some of us are involved in 10 to 15 hour days that revolve around the vw scene , you soon get to hear about scammers, are you saying that i should keep my big mouth shut about these scammmers then? and let fellow v dubbers carry on getting skanked, facts are we told you so years ago about certain companies and most choose to believe that we have hidden agendas and are jealous do me a favour carry on as you where, to be honest i dont give a fuck either way, we are rammed out with work and sales are up this year ( Pr Jan),

Well good luck out there guys, do your home work before you buy.
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Old 25-08-2009, 11:37 AM   #3
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No . . . I'm saying let those with FACTS relate those FACTS . . . 'opinion' and 'hearsay' just cause me grief. I don't like grief.

I'm quite happy to support anyone who's been fucked over - VZi's record on this is second-to-none . . . what I can't defend is when it all gets 'abusive' . . . calling a company 'cunts' or 'wankers' just weakens any case anyone might have and it's ME that then has to deal with the emails and/or solicitor's letters that come thru'.

So, I'm saying "PLEASE STICK TO FACTS" . . . that's all . . . FIRST HAND experience . . . NOT 'what you heard'.

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PS: The Mods aren't the only people on VZi that can 'tag' . . . there's around 40 users can do this . . . including EVERY thread starter
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My involvment comes from people that phone me and ask what they can do because they feel they cant post on here because the doo gooders will back up Mr nice guy,
If they haven't got the bottle to post up their accusations/problems themselves . . . they shouldn't be asking you (or anyone else to) . . . as in all walks of life . . . put up - or shut up . . . don't be getting your 'big brother' to fight your battles.

It's a public forum and folk are entitled to reply (even 'do gooders' )

So . . . I'll re-iterate FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE OR NOTHING AT ALL please?

I hope that's clarified the situation.
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