Bike engine in a Beetle - Page 2 - VW Forum - VZi, Europe's largest VW, community and sales
 


     
 

Go Back   VW Forum - VZi, Europe's largest VW, community and sales > CLUB FORUMS > Alternate Engine

Alternate Engine Got a Scooby motor in the back of your dub? Or a V8? Alfa? You know a Porsche motor drops straight in - right? This is the forum for you. Please, no 'For Sale' or 'Want To Buy' ads, plugs for your 'business', links to 'for sale' ads or Ebay links to your (or your mate's) auction (use the VZi 'Classifieds' section) - this also includes thinly veiled 'What's My Car Worth?' threads and "Who Can Sell Me A . . ." posts.

Reply Post New Thread
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 5 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 01-11-2007, 02:39 PM   #11
wedgedout

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 8,225
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puddener View Post
I know what you're saying man, busa engines make about 41hp and 99N/m at 3000 rpm (more or less tick over for a bike engine) which is probably more than some original beetles make . I'd say cost will be the prohibitive issue in this works out cheaper/more reliable and probably faster just to stick a car lump in there.
There's a good reason that a lot of people are putting subaru engines into old VW's
wedgedout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2007, 08:56 PM   #12
masitaly
Chat Slapper

Trading feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 240
Default

Id love a bike engined beetle on a tube chassis. I was at GTI international in the summer and there was a twin hayabusa engined polo there; see link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqP0smO4H4

It was incredible. The vid doesn't do it justice. At one point they raced it down the start finish straight against two 1000+hp skylines and it literally obliterated them.

Got loads of pictures of the engineering on the car. Huge amount of work. Obviously not road legal, but a serious piece of kit none the less!!
masitaly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2007, 10:43 PM   #13
ip Racing

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18
Default

i would use an R1 or hayabusa engine with a Quaife drive box and diff or there chain driven axel unit in a custom mounting. This would be an intresting project as you would loose weight from the car and have a 6 speed sequential gearbox and cooling would not be a big issue like on the scooby engines due to the space you would have at the rear of the car. Also if you are still wanting more power you can always turbo the engines..........

But this has now got me thinking??????

Last edited by ip Racing; 05-11-2007 at 11:05 PM..
ip Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 06-11-2007, 01:00 AM   #14
freakybug
I'm not an addict... honest!
 
freakybug's Avatar

Trading feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: manchester
Posts: 4,376
Default

there is a very succesfull and crazy fast mk1 golf rwd hyabusa turbo on the golf scene at the mo check out h&r engeenering they specialise in bike conversions
__________________
Currently driving an indigo blue 60 type 1
freakybug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2007, 09:34 AM   #15
wedgedout

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 8,225
Default

Scoobying a bug isn't really that hard and it's possible with a relativly stock engine to get down into the 11's.

masitaly sums it up perfectly when he says "Huge amount of work. Obviously not road legal, but a serious piece of kit none the less!!"

ip Racing, I'd like to see it done.. if you do it the scene will be a richer place, but you'll be a poorer man .

If you rekon you're up to it, prove me wrong

freakybug, I've seen that, for the money I'd still rather drop an Rotary Mazda or a Subaru engine in there
wedgedout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2007, 01:57 PM   #16
puddener
Chat Virgin

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 45
Default

Personally if money was no object a couple of ZX10R engines with these http://www.muzzys.com/ZX10/ZX10_Turbo/index.html would be the way I'd go or a ZZR1400 engine. Some sort of back axle with a LSD and a tranfer box out of a 4x4 to link it all up, bit of MacGyvering and Bobs your uncle pure evil.
puddener is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2007, 08:23 PM   #17
ip Racing

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wedgedout View Post
ip Racing, I'd like to see it done.. if you do it the scene will be a richer place, but you'll be a poorer man .

If you rekon you're up to it, prove me wrong

freakybug, I've seen that, for the money I'd still rather drop an Rotary Mazda or a Subaru engine in there
I am having a serious think about it as it could be made road legal too. But not sure what to put it in. Type 3 would be nice but may just go for a bug.

Doing a split screen with a scooby turbo engine at the moment but trying to make it look as factory possible as i hate the look of big rubber hoses etc... that you know where not meant to be used.
I have moded so many parts from cooling pipes to the mainifolds and turbo set up to do this. But it will all be worth it when it is done, just shame it is not mine
ip Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2007, 11:06 AM   #18
puddener
Chat Virgin

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 45
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ip Racing View Post
I am having a serious think about it as it could be made road legal too. But not sure what to put it in. Type 3 would be nice but may just go for a bug.

Doing a split screen with a scooby turbo engine at the moment but trying to make it look as factory possible as i hate the look of big rubber hoses etc... that you know where not meant to be used.
I have moded so many parts from cooling pipes to the mainifolds and turbo set up to do this. But it will all be worth it when it is done, just shame it is not mine

Hope you do it Ip Racing still toying with the idea myself. I'm still thinking the easiest way would be to strip the gearbox off the bike engine and connect the transaxle direct to the bikes flywheel. But then no 6 speed sequential. Needs a bit of thought but can't see why it wouldn't work or be road legal.
Regardless a VW Beetle with a 14000 redline can only be a good thing and something different.
puddener is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2007, 04:21 PM   #19
the darkside
Help! I'm trapped in here
 
the darkside's Avatar

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: newmarket,suffolk
Posts: 27,643
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puddener View Post
Hope you do it Ip Racing still toying with the idea myself. I'm still thinking the easiest way would be to strip the gearbox off the bike engine and connect the transaxle direct to the bikes flywheel. But then no 6 speed sequential. Needs a bit of thought but can't see why it wouldn't work or be road legal.
Regardless a VW Beetle with a 14000 redline can only be a good thing and something different.
rotary engines used in drag bugs in australia rev to 21000
the darkside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2007, 04:48 PM   #20
wedgedout

Trading feedback: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 8,225
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puddener View Post
Hope you do it Ip Racing still toying with the idea myself. I'm still thinking the easiest way would be to strip the gearbox off the bike engine and connect the transaxle direct to the bikes flywheel. But then no 6 speed sequential. Needs a bit of thought but can't see why it wouldn't work or be road legal.
Regardless a VW Beetle with a 14000 redline can only be a good thing and something different.
agreed, although as I discussed earlier with IP Racing over the blowah, it's all or nothing with bike engines in cars.. you'd be pulling off at 4krpm

Hardly ideal in a street car, OK for drag use I guess.

the other option is some sort of gearbox convertor setup. so you can convert that high revs power, to usable power...

But then there's no advantage to having a higher reving engine
wedgedout is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply Post New Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Disclaimer: For recreational purposes only, some assembly required. Any resemblance to real persons,
living or dead is purely intentional and the site admins are not responsible for direct, indirect,
incidental or consequential ridicule resulting from any defect or failure to perform. No animals
were harmed in the creation of this forum. Colours may fade over time. No other warranty expressed or implied.

volkszone.com

SupportingSupporting Brad's Cancer Foundation

 











 
© Volkszone • Terms and Conditions of use