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Old 13-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #1
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Right, well please excuse my ignorance etc. as i am a newbie, lol...
basically I want to get my first beetle soon and i have some questions. ( by some, I really mean a million )
I want to get a 63 bug ideally, 1st I was wandering if It would be cheaper to buy a bug thats in one piece or buy a floorpan from someone and shell then get a engine etc. and building it myself which I dont really mind if I dont have to do any welding, so ill want one thats not got much rust.

I dont want to do a full body off resto or anything just yet though.

My thoughts were to by a 63 floorpan, no front beam, brakes, or anything. Then buy a 63 or 62 ish shell and plonk it on top (I know its not going to be that easy) then get a cheap 1300 engine etc.

But here is where my questions start...
1) which way would be cheaper?
2) how much am I looking at if I buy it in parts? including tools etc.
3)since its just a floorpan, i would need to get steering box, gearbox, brakes and engine.. and put the shell on to chassis, would that be 'easy' or doable for someone with little knowlege of a bug and where stuff goes.
4) I would like to lower it, alot. so i want a 6 inch narrowed beam, would that require body mods etc?

I'm sure ive missed some questions and stuff, but I apreceate the help.. sorry im a noob.
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Buy the best you can afford that is on the road. Spend time then tinkering and getting to know it. There is no 'cheap' way of restoring something that is 40+ years old.
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Yeah i know, I dont really intend to 'restore' a beetle, just wondering if it would be cheaper to buy a cheap chassis and shell and put it together myself with some cheap rusty old bumpers and stuff and whatever I can get my hands on, not to fussy on condition on anything apart from engine, shell and floorpan. basically just the important bits.
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first thing is to......sit back and decide what your budget is....

then.what can YOU actually do yourself....ie,can you weld for example?...do you have a decent tool kit already,space to work and store it etc

have a look around and see what your budget will get you....

once you actually start the cost pretty much always goes up the way..


if you aren't after a stunning show condition bug,then look for a project that is nearly finished and already has the bits in that you would like,ie the narrowed beem.....

Good luck with it

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I would buy a complete car. Can I ask why it must be a '63? Building one from a floorpan up is going to be more work than it sounds. If you start from a complete car you might not even have to split the pan from the shell if it is good enough already.
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Thanks spelllbound.. I would say my budget is about 2 to 3 grand max. So not a lot.
I have space, not a decent toolkit though.
I can't weld which I think I've already mentioned, would love to learn though, lol.
Im currently training to be an engineer so I like to think ill be able to do most of the work with the right instructions and know how.

I saw a 62 for sale a while ago, which needed a bit of welding under battery tray, painting, engine, interior etc. They were asking 3,000 is that realistic. It wad a ragtop though. Thought it was a bit steep. But I may be wrong
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I would buy a complete car. Can I ask why it must be a '63? Building one from a floorpan up is going to be more work than it sounds. If you start from a complete car you might not even have to split the pan from the shell if it is good enough already.
63 fetish? Lol
Only joking, its just that I've always wanted a early bug, ragtop. Sick as fook. I would get a oval but I thinks there a bit out of my budget.
And I wouldn't really want to make a early looker bug.

Finding a cheap rust free 63 is also more work than it sounds. haha. I'm on the lookout like everyday though. One day ill find one.
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do you want a "project" or a useable bug?

If you want to use it, buy a complete car, look at unfinished projects that kind of thing

if you want a "project" fine, buy bits etc as you need them, but it will take time and a lot more money to build a car that "may" make it on the road one day
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do you want a "project" or a useable bug?

If you want to use it, buy a complete car, look at unfinished projects that kind of thing

if you want a "project" fine, buy bits etc as you need them, but it will take time and a lot more money to build a car that "may" make it on the road one day
I want a usable bug. will be my daily.
I have alot of time, just not money, as I say I dont plan on doing any major restoration or welding.
I just want a cheap slammed early bug, could be ratty but not full o' holes, ya know.
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I want a usable bug. will be my daily.
I have alot of time, just not money, as I say I dont plan on doing any major restoration or welding.
I just want a cheap slammed early bug, could be ratty but not full o' holes, ya know.
in that case......be patient,take your time,do your re-search and look at loads of bugs......
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