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Old 14-09-2019, 02:45 PM   #1
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So my car tax reminder came through the post yesterday for my Bugeye Impreza and it's not the cheapest by a long shot (£330 for the year) but it's a toy and you accept cost's come with these things, 2litre turbo from the 2000 era isn't going to be the most environmentally friendly engine.

But then i was thinking, how many miles have i actually done in this car, i go and check... 308 in a year.

Now if a smart car is doing 10,000 miles a year and only paying £100 in tax, it's going to be doing more damage to the environment even though it has a more "environmentally friendly engine" due to distance covered.

Surly a Tax per mile system is more fair? Thoughts?
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My opinion changed on classics/toys literally yesterday.
Thursday i would have sead sell it, today i say use it .

Yesterday i had the great fortune of going to Goodwood Revival and it totally changed my view on what should be done with these cherished cars we have.
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The car tax system is unfair - but why not? Depending on your point of view most elements of taxation, income tax, corporation tax, value added tax etc are all ‘unfair’ - and guess what? Those folk that think a particular tax is unfair, are usually those folk that are paying that particular tax. The taxes that they think are ‘fair’ are the taxes that they are not paying, but other folk are

It is just human nature - because humans, by nature - are selfish, self interested bags of shite - fact.

But, specific to your question - in my opinion, fuel tax could be raised a bit and car tax could be scrapped. It would automatically become a ‘pay as you use’ taxation, which in my opinion is the fairest way to tax, or for that matter, sell anything.
The more you have the more you pay - simples (as those annoying little meerkats would say)
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My Octavia VRS is £260+ now, I pay monthly so hard to keep track, I barely cover 2k a year in it. A pay as you go system would be fairer as you say as long as classics stay free
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Buy tax free motors?2 of mine are and both fun in there own way

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...fuel tax could be raised a bit and car tax could be scrapped. It would automatically become a ‘pay as you use’ taxation, which in my opinion is the fairest way to tax...
This ^ is by far the fairest way. The more you use, the more you pay.
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This ^ is by far the fairest way. The more you use, the more you pay.
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But, specific to your question - in my opinion, fuel tax could be raised a bit and car tax could be scrapped. It would automatically become a ‘pay as you use’ taxation, which in my opinion is the fairest way to tax, or for that matter, sell anything.
I think agree too. Our camper is about £540 to tax now and does the fewest miles out of our 3 vehicles.

But then we do about 40k miles between the 3 vehicle, so selfishly I'm not sure if pay per mile is a good idea
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