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Can’t go any further until I get advice. This. A pillar is turning into a right pain in the bum to sort out. I thought I had the extra gap sorted out when I added another piece to the repair panel but when I attached the alignment tool it was off but 1cm so today I jacked the body up from the centre tunnel to get the tool to line up the hinges. As you can see there is now a gap of about 1cm that needs to be filled but now at the bulkhead there is also a 1cm gap. I do know whether I’m being thick or not but something don’t look right to me

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Can’t go any further until I get advice. This. A pillar is turning into a right pain in the bum to sort out. I thought I had the extra gap sorted out when I added another piece to the repair panel but when I attached the alignment tool it was off but 1cm so today I jacked the body up from the centre tunnel to get the tool to line up the hinges. As you can see there is now a gap of about 1cm that needs to be filled but now at the bulkhead there is also a 1cm gap. I do know whether I’m being thick or not but something don’t look right to me
Are you sure that door hinge alignment tool is the correct distance between the hinges ? Check it against the actual door.
Also, it looks like the tool is fitted upside down, the angles of the parts which replicate the hinges look wrong.
I would fasten the front bulkhead to the heater channel, either by welding or temporarily with 'L' brackets and TEK screws.
Do not lift the body by the door gap brace, I think this may be warping the bodyshell, instead, use a pole to lift at the top of the door opening/roofline.
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Are you sure that door hinge alignment tool is the correct distance between the hinges ? Check it against the actual door.
Also, it looks like the tool is fitted upside down, the angles of the parts which replicate the hinges look wrong.
I would fasten the front bulkhead to the heater channel, either by welding or temporarily with 'L' brackets and TEK screws.
Do not lift the body by the door gap brace, I think this may be warping the bodyshell, instead, use a pole to lift at the top of the door opening/roofline.
The tool is homemade and matches perfectly with the door hinges and bolts. Isn’t upside down as the holes are different top and bottom. I have lifted the body by places some wood under the dashboard and a trolley jack on the tunnel so it is being lifted straight up. At the moment the channel is bolted to pan
The tool is homemade and matches perfectly with the door hinges and bolts. Isn’t upside down as the holes are different top and bottom. I have lifted the body by places some wood under the dashboard and a trolley jack on the tunnel so it is being lifted straight up. At the moment the channel is bolted to pan
Your lifting technique is forcing the bulkhead up and away from the heater channel at the very front end, because the Heater channel is bolted to the floor.
Fasten the bulkhead to the Heater channel, because you know this dimension is correct.
Then put the jack on the heater channel, with a pole to the roofline to gently increase the height of the door opening at the A pillar until the hinge mountings are aligned with the tool.
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Your lifting technique is forcing the bulkhead up and away from the heater channel at the very front end, because the Heater channel is bolted to the floor.
Fasten the bulkhead to the Heater channel, because you know this dimension is correct.
Then put the jack on the heater channel, with a pole to the roofline to gently increase the height of the door opening at the A pillar until the hinge mountings are aligned with the tool.
Ah I got ya. I saw someone on YouTube lifting that way and assumed it would be ok.
It may be that the whole side of the car has sagged as the rear quarters have been “repaired” as well and not attached when I got her.
I’ll try your suggestion tomorrow
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Ah I got ya. I saw someone on YouTube lifting that way and assumed it would be ok.
It may be that the whole side of the car has sagged as the rear quarters have been “repaired” as well and not attached when I got her.
I’ll try your suggestion tomorrow
If the door fitted OK before you started, it may have sagged when you removed the bottom of the A pillar, so that is the area you need to concentrate on and keep everything else in the same place as it was.
Trolley jack under the centre of the dash is lifting the whole bodyshell, you only need to slightly adjust the door opening, so apply the force directly to that area, it won't need much force, a small scissor jack and a length of wood should be enough to bring the hinge plates into alignment with your tool.
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If the door fitted OK before you started, it may have sagged when you removed the bottom of the A pillar, so that is the area you need to concentrate on and keep everything else in the same place as it was.
Trolley jack under the centre of the dash is lifting the whole bodyshell, you only need to slightly adjust the door opening, so apply the force directly to that area, it won't need much force, a small scissor jack and a length of wood should be enough to bring the hinge plates into alignment with your tool.
When I got the car the bottom wasn’t connected to the channel at all so yeah I guess it probably sagged. Hopefully get out soon and sort it but not feeling it today.
welded in a piece of metal to join the bulkhead and channel together but it killed my back twisting to do it :(. Used my trolley jack and loads of wood to jack the roof up and hey presto the tool lined up. Going to leave it a few days to encourage it to stay that shape. Luckily the place I bought the cheaper repair panel from sent 2 by mistake so I think it’ll use that instead of having 3 repairs n the pillar just for strength.
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