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It's come up on the MOT! Doh!.......am i correct in saying you only need one only bugs later than Aug 1965?? mine is a early 65 (K&L beam)

Dont particually wanna buy a already 2" narrowed one or mess around finding/shortening one!! :(

Can anyone help at all?

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Tingly Bill said:
my 72 never had one and ive MOTed it twice with no problems
Sounds like a particularly "laid-back MOT tester, do they pass it with bald tyres and dodgy brakes too ? :eek:
A/R bar is an important suspension component on a 72, designed to control the 'jacking' effect of body roll on the rear wheels, (yes, rear wheels), in an attempt to stop you from losing it on a wet bend.
However, A/R bar was only fitted to Beetles after August 1965.
 

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Well, if im being honest there was one on the original beam, but i removed this when i changed to my narrowed beam, at the time i didnt wanna mess around with an ARB (lazy i know!! ) one of the clamps was also being a pain in the ass so i left it (wanted to drive it!)

Fast foward to now, put it through the MOT last week and he failed it on not having an anti roll bar (pleb here forgot to spend the time to remove the extra clamp Embarassed )

Im a tight arse, so i dont want to mess around with a new narrowed ARB (im sure ive seen them in Coolair for £80!) nor did i want to mess around cutting down an old one (time and no welder to hand!)

Whilst looking for a new ARB i have noticed that alot of places say anti roll bars 08/65 onwards, which to me was when BJ beams started (no?) mines a K&L beam, so i thought its worth a fight with the MOT tester!

Sorry for the LONG story!!! lol
 

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I think you will find that you do not need an anti roll bar on any age of car to pass an MOT but if one is fitted the attachment points and bushes / link rods must be in good condition ;)
 

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Laurence Fletcher said:
Sounds like a particularly "laid-back MOT tester, do they pass it with bald tyres and dodgy brakes too ? :eek:
A/R bar is an important suspension component on a 72, designed to control the 'jacking' effect of body roll on the rear wheels, (yes, rear wheels), in an attempt to stop you from losing it on a wet bend.
However, A/R bar was only fitted to Beetles after August 1965.
No offense intended but I'd hardly put the lack of anti-roll bar in the same league as tyres and brakes. If he's running a narrowed beam, then there's a good chance it's lowered too in which case an anti-roll bar does virtually sod all (except minimize ground clearance).
 

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I agree with Tom.
My '66 (balljoint) beetle passed the MOT without one - I was watching the test and the guy asked me "why havn't you got the anti roll bar fitted?"
I just told him that at the ride height I keep my bug at it doesn't make a bit of difference, and he passed it :)

Anyway, my beetle can corner well enough to unsettle me before any hint of poor handling, despite only having 4.5j and 5.5j wheels. They make driving in the wet over drain covers fun though :D
 

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I'd say it's because the remnents of the old one were still there, therefore he had to fail it as the equipment wasn't complete.(might be wrong)
I spoke to an mot tester long time ago about a door handle that didn't work properly, he said that if the car has equipment or bits of it still attached then the device has to function.

My lowered 69 hasn't got one on ever since it scooped up a set of temporary traffic lights and pulled them all down.
 

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My ARB was removed from my last beetle as it MOT failed on the mountings. In removing the 'bar it can pass as there is no need for the mountings to be checked - they aren't there.

Same sort of story with seatbelts... If they are there and required, they need to work. If your car doesn't require them, so you remove them for the MOT it will pass.
 

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my 67 didnt have one fitted on my mot in july as i had just put an new beam on and didnt have the chance to put the bar on.

i did for a week but my cars too low to run it without it being a pain
 

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Tomarse said:
No offense intended but I'd hardly put the lack of anti-roll bar in the same league as tyres and brakes. If he's running a narrowed beam, then there's a good chance it's lowered too in which case an anti-roll bar does virtually sod all (except minimize ground clearance).
None taken, I'm just saying if it came out of Wolfsburg with one, I wouldn't drive a standard Bug without one, because in standard form, it needs all the suspension and handling aids it can get. VW added it to improve the Beetle's poor handling and stability, so I consider it important, like I think tyres & brakes, & shock absorbers etc., are important it's a personal preference, The MOT doesn't care.
I accept your point that lowering makes it superfluous, ('coz, IMHO, lowering only improves the looks, not the suspension :D ).
 

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any opionions on running with out a rear anti roll bar / z bar/ equalising bar.

I've had to cut mine off as the posts we rusted through.
 

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Vinco said:
......am i correct in saying you only need one only bugs later than Aug 1965??....
To answer one of your original questions: Front stabilizers were used on 60-64 deluxe and convertible models (most Bugs imported into the UK were deluxe export models).

zac said:
any opionions on running with out a rear...z bar/ equalising bar....
You will simply have softer overall rear suspension and it may 'bottom-out' now and again.
 

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Peter said:
You will simply have softer overall rear suspension and it may 'bottom-out' now and again.
The bump stops will prevent bottoming out from being harsh. Even when slammed and with no Z-bar or bump stops, it takes quite a lot to bottom out.
 

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If it was originally equiped with a Z-bar, then load it up with people and hit a few pot-holes or miss that speed bump!
 
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