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DIY Computer people....Falling at the first hurdle!

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Right...

So I bought a Shuttle PC case with Ram & Processor

512 meg ram, P4 2.8 also has a dvd rewriter installed.

I then got a 500gb SATA hard drive.

I then purchased a LEGAL copy of XP Home.

But can I get the fucker to even recognise the DVD Drive? Can I bollocks!

I'm guessing it is a SATA issue as the DVD drive and the HD are both SATA connected and last time I built a PC it was connected by IDE for these things.

The problem comes in that I tried connecting a DVD drive to the IDE channels and it still wasn't recognised.

If I wanted to fault-find on this, where would I start?

I'm at work now but will try and do some 'stuff' this evening to see whether I can get the DVD working.

:)

Wiltsteve
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The problem comes in that I tried connecting a DVD drive to the IDE channels and it still wasn't recognised.
Do you really mean that? You connected a SATA drive to IDE?

If not (and I'm guessing not) then that channel might be disabled in the BIOS like Pyro said :)
First thing to check would be the BIOS to make sure that the dvd drive is recognised. I assume that the drive has Sata & IDE connectors? if not im not sure how you would do it though the IDE?
Have you looked in the bios?
Yep.

Tried altering boot order.

SATA not an option, Tried CD drive1/2/3

I've got an HD with windows already loaded so I'm going to give that a go to see whether I can connect it via IDE and start the ball rolling.

I'm guessing it is a firmware problem with SATA. Apparently, according to the bloke it the computer shop I bought the replacement SATA cables from, motherboards with SATA often need drivers installed for a computer to be able to use the SATA channells.

Sounds like bullshite to me, but if I can get a HD working, I can download the latest bios and drivers for the motherboard and then at some point switch to SATA and everybodys happy.

:)

Wiltsteve
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Do you really mean that? You connected a SATA drive to IDE?

If not (and I'm guessing not) then that channel might be disabled in the BIOS like Pyro said :)
I'm not that much of a mong!

:D

I have another computer that I threw together but it uses IDE all the way.

Took the IDE DVD drive from that.

:)

Wiltsteve
I'm not that much of a mong!

:D

I have another computer that I threw together but it uses IDE all the way.

Took the IDE DVD drive from that.

:)

Wiltsteve
:lol: I guessed as I walked away - if you see the drive in the BIOS but windows doesn't recognise it then you need to press F6 during bootup and supply it with a floppy disk with the driver on - either that or streamline the driver into your XP using winlite.

However, reading your description it sounds like the BIOS isn't recognising it - is there an update for your BIOS?

**EDIT** Although SATA doesn't appear in the boot order the SATA channels could be disabled in the BIOS still ?
:lol: I guessed as I walked away - if you see the drive in the BIOS but windows doesn't recognise it then you need to press F6 during bootup and supply it with a floppy disk with the driver on - either that or streamline the driver into your XP using winlite.

However, reading your description it sounds like the BIOS isn't recognising it - is there an update for your BIOS?

**EDIT** Although SATA doesn't appear in the boot order the SATA channels could be disabled in the BIOS still ?
I don't think I can see the SATA attached drives from the Bios.

I must admit I'm a little scared playing about in there.

A floppy drive....do people still have those?

I don't even have an old one lying about? Exactly how much porn can you save on 1.44mb disks?

:D
This may seem like an stupid and odd question but...

Have you remembered to connect the power cable to the SATA drive? :D

When I was building the PC that I'm on now (based on an Asrock motherboard),I didn't have to do anything special to get the SATA drive running...I just plugged it in,slapped my Windows disc into the DVD drive and it formatted and installed XP with no probs.
i ran an ide hard drive on a sata board before, using an adapter, and it worked no probs. can you get some kind of dvd driver / boot utility loaded off a usb stick maybe?
do you have the master/slave jumpers on the drives correctly set?
Did the Shuttle come with a driver disk - as in a 3.5" floppy?

Some of them you had to drag out an old floppy drive to boot the disk and then install Windows after it copied the drivers across.
This may seem like an stupid and odd question but...

Have you remembered to connect the power cable to the SATA drive? :D

When I was building the PC that I'm on now (based on an Asrock motherboard),I didn't have to do anything special to get the SATA drive running...I just plugged it in,slapped my Windows disc into the DVD drive and it formatted and installed XP with no probs.
Yep.

Tried using 2 different sata data and power cables.

The dvd lights up and spins but doesn't 'read' which made me think it was the cable but that didn't work.

:)
i ran an ide hard drive on a sata board before, using an adapter, and it worked no probs. can you get some kind of dvd driver / boot utility loaded off a usb stick maybe?
I've got ide channels on the motherboard so i'm going to try them....
do you have the master/slave jumpers on the drives correctly set?
This I don't know... I'll have to check.

:)
Did the Shuttle come with a driver disk - as in a 3.5" floppy?

Some of them you had to drag out an old floppy drive to boot the disk and then install Windows after it copied the drivers across.
No, it was 2nd hand. The hard disk is where I guess a floppy would live.

:)
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