Idiots. The lot of them.

 

I still use wire, it's the quickest way to get a single track...and the best source for obscure tracks.

Mostly I use the PB or BTJunkie (which seems to have been down all day). But if all that shit is too slow, I buy off iTunes. It's also that iTunes catalogue is shite. they almost never have what I'm looking for.

 

Rapidshare is what I use, I wish them luck

 

I use the bay and vuze... limewire is so old news and there is sweet FA on there

it's not a crime anyway... it's a civil matter

I download tons of stuff... but I also buy lots of stuff too

I will stop downloading when 'they' make it so there is nothing out there to download

I would take getting a letter as a badge of honour

 

The thing that worries me with all of this is, what about people like me that use torrents and such for legitimate purposes? Surely they can't actually tell what I am physically downloading, just the fact I am downloading a torrent.

 

good one... I must remember that

'I'm using it for legitimate reasons and not downloading futurama the beast with a billion backs and the third series of peep show'

 

Ooooh Peep show, thanks Peelo

 

thing is as well I download things because they are in different formats

I have all the star war films of dvd, but I wanted them on mp4 made to a minimum size and found it on the bay... so now I can stick them on my phone... great for passing time when you are waiting for some reason... been catching up with south park in the same way... sticking a whole series at a time on my phone... I watch them once and then delete them... can't really see how that is hurting anyone

 

you can get done for putting a copy of a cd you have bought and own, onto your mp3 player

 

done by who?

find me a link to a news story?

would love to read one

 

I use torrents for software downloads. Not moody stuff either, the majority of Linux distros and a lot of opensource/free software are available via torrents. I don't honestly believe that MP3 is a good sound format, the overhaul quality isn't up to that of a CD. I think the only album that I have downloaded, from a legitimate soucre, is Parka and I burnt that straight onto a CD and MiniDisc, I don't even own a MP3 player. Downloaded movies are shite quality too.

 

Mp3 is obsolete, it has been for a very long time, problem is consumer adoption is so far behind that from the consumer standpoint, it's current which is why it's so prolific.

 

I don't know, all the TV shows I've downloaded are as good if not better quality than the shite SKY broadcast.

 

It's all scare mungery IMHO

Ever hear of anyone getting charged with recording the Top 40 onto tape from their music center at home ??

DO i download songs ?

Not any more, i just watch them on youtube

What about the stuff on the USB stick in the Bug ?

All CD's (but 50 tracks were downloads)

Downloads ?

Music shops have closed, so i go to MAIN HMV type places, do they have a wide selection of the stuff i listen too ? Lucky if i find one CD

iTunes is good but still no good if i want some Acid or Trance or Jazz

Downloads you can find anything, where do i pay for the privilage, i'd like to pay something for the artist

 

There were a few people prosecuted and fined (€3000?) here last year, but they were described as 'serial downloaders' with 50k+ tracks being shared.

 

www.easynews.com

Cannot be traced and wonderful!

 

http://members.easynews.com/

Cannot be traced and wonderful!

Asks me for a Username and Password.

 

There's very little on the internet you can't trace with suitable amounts of effort

 

Private addresses are still registered

 

well, not technically private addresses... but meh, i know what you meant

I sort of know what i typed :lol:

But everything you download is shown on the ISP's servers.

Tottally untraceable ? Doesn't exist unless you really really know what your doing, but if you new that, you'd have enough money to buy it anyway :lol: :hug:

 

well, not technically private addresses... but meh, i know what you meant

 

Any IP address on the net (public ) is has to be allocated (it's a bloddy evil process), this process leaves ripe data for that ip address, those addresses go into logs, if the address is registered to a private individual, even through an isp, the records will exist

 

loved the comment on news earlier from Joe Public thicko...'I dunno wots wrong wiv it, everyone else does it un all, wots the problem'.

DOH.

 

Ok, here's what he says.....

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Ditch Fileshare & go usenet.

The UK ISPs have signed up to spy on customers internet traffic.
Heavy use of ports associated with filesharing will generate a warning letter.
Copyright holders posing as filesharers can obtain IP addresses of downloaders and request personal details from the downloaders ISP.

Going down the usenet route.
You are using a standard web port with a HTTPS !!! connection.
Your ISP cannot decode or identify the nature of the traffic - you might just be downloading alt.jokes
Go with a usenet service provider with a liberal privacy policy - they don't log what you download or disclose your IP when you post.

Sure - before too long the usenet providers will have the thumbscrews applied to them in the same was as ISPs - but for the moment things are rosy.

 

Unless they keep no web server logs, they log activit, weather intentional or not, also the bulk of that covers detection *not* tracability

 

Again, not my response...

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Don't get your point. If there is no detection who cares about traceability.
Traceability only comes into it if detection is easy.

Since copyright holders are pretending to be filesharers - by searching and downloading you are being detected..

You have an agreement with a usenet provider which states they don't log your traffic unless requested by a law enforcement warrant.
Your ISP can't inspect your traffic to the usenet provider and it is not on a suspicious filesharing port.
If you can't provide reasonable proof of infringement you can't get a warrant.
Essentially you need proof of infringement in order to obtain proof of infringement.

Not saying this is a guaranteed never get caught solution but in the current environment copyright holders will be too busy with filesharers "shooting fish in the barrel"

 

funny how they want to stop downloading but then there people every week at car boots selling cd`s ,dvd`s for a five each and never ever one have i seen a copper and every dvd is bent as some of the films have not in come out over here .
these people are making money out of it as well

 

Thing is I know a copper that has just been part of an investigation that saw a bloke done for £368,000 worth of piracy and money laundering.

 

The point was the issue that was raised was weather somthing was tracable

 

Which was my fault for using inappropriate terminology.

What i should have said was "not going to get caught under current circumstances"

 

is this coincidence?

pirate bay is offline

 

its back now ....hooooray !!!

 

What's really odd about this new "tact" is the ISP's have signed up to it. Surely the ISP's know there is no way to "police" what people download.

I will admit to downloading music and movies but most of the time it's because I can't be arsed to convert it myself. For example I recently ordered the latest sambassadeur album but it took ages to get here (post issues) so I just downloaded it. Also I got Semi Pro on DVD but I wanted to watch it on the train when I was going away for work, rather than sit and copy the dvd and convert it I just downloaded a copy where someone else had already done all the donkey work (it's a shite movie by the way).

Also I get free software (open office and linux) though bittorent these are legitimate downloads but all the ISP could see is that I am downloading a torrent. Are they just going to stop all torrents?

having said all the I use a seedbox so all the downloading I do to my home computer is through FTP and as far as I know they haven't coped onto that yet.

 

All they (the BPI or whoever) can do is have a team of people with computers who sit downloading/uploading torrents of the week's big releases (or pre-releases), noting down the IP addresses of other people on that torrent, getting the relevant data from the ISP in question and sending out their letters. The ISP's arent going to "police" anything themselves, there's no way they can, but just hand over the addresses of their users when Shergal Farkey asks them to. That's the way I understand it anyway.

 

wouldn't that be entrapment (does that exist in this country?)?