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Beta version now available now free to download from microsoft.com, I am going to have a play with it on an old pc.
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XP Pro FTW ;)
Beta version now available now free to download from microsoft.com, I am going to have a play with it on an old pc.
From what I have read it is just Vista with a frock on.
From what I have read it is just Vista with a frock on.
More of a party dress than a frock I think ;)

After watching Microsoft's videos about it and reading, it just looks like Vista, but working properly with a few prettier pictures!

Not a massive leap forward in technology then :lol:
From what I have read it is just Vista with a frock on.
Well that is somewhat wrong, since windows seven is what vista was supposed to be, rather than using the same old mdos background which they used in every operating system since 95 (maybe before) they have re written it to allow for it to run on lower spec systems.

this means that the sys requirements from vista nolonger mean a thing. they have also made everything more stable by actually doing the job they were supposed to do and writing a backend to the operating system which is tailoered for the new OS rather than tagging on a few extentions to XP which is exactly what vista is.

Vista was only released to keep stockholders happy, windows seven, or windows vienna is what microsoft have been working on all this time. But as its a microsoft product, expect delays and also things to go wrong, but what i can see from it, as i have been using seven for about 3 months now is that it is reasonably stable even in its alpha stages, i have not had the time to download the beta, but i can assure you it is about 100000x better than vista ever could be.
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Downloading it now, will try it on a Dell laptop later.
sorry about the little rant there btw. i just understand how much effort went in to that os and for it to be called vista in a frock just wound me up
Well that is somewhat wrong, since windows seven is what vista was supposed to be, rather than using the same old mdos background which they used in every operating system since 95 (maybe before) they have re written it to allow for it to run on lower spec systems.

this means that the sys requirements from vista nolonger mean a thing. they have also made everything more stable by actually doing the job they were supposed to do and writing a backend to the operating system which is tailoered for the new OS rather than tagging on a few extentions to XP which is exactly what vista is.

Vista was only released to keep stockholders happy, windows seven, or windows vienna is what microsoft have been working on all this time. But as its a microsoft product, expect delays and also things to go wrong, but what i can see from it, as i have been using seven for about 3 months now is that it is reasonably stable even in its alpha stages, i have not had the time to download the beta, but i can assure you it is about 100000x better than vista ever could be.
Lower spec, have you read the requirements?

but i can assure you it is about 100000x better than vista ever could be.
One of the developers are we?
Having tried Windows 7 it is a damn site faster than Vista - like Azrael says all the good stuff has happened under the hood (faster smaller kernel etc) but some of the UI improvements are very good.

Do NOT try it on a laptop though - there is very limited driver support at the moment ;)
Having tried Windows 7 it is a damn site faster than Vista - like Azrael says all the good stuff has happened under the hood (faster smaller kernel etc) but some of the UI improvements are very good.
Agreed.. a lot snappier than Vista - impressive when it's still at the beta stage.. liking the window 'snap-to-edge' feature..

I guess you could liken it to the new VW Golf.. not massively different on the surface but much improved where it counts..
Agreed.. a lot snappier than Vista - impressive when it's still at the beta stage.. liking the window 'snap-to-edge' feature..

I guess you could liken it to the new VW Golf.. not massively different on the surface but much improved where it counts..
Good Analogy :)

I also like "Aero Peek" when you have stacked windows - much more useful :)

The built in wallpaper changer is a gimick though :rolleyes:
sorry about the little rant there btw.
Was that Azrael in a frock?
What are the main differences compared to Vista underneath? Not the eye candy stuff that it would appear most people judge a whole new OS by :lol: Any actual improvements in hardware support, stability, security and performance? I'd be interested to know :)
What are the main differences compared to Vista underneath? Not the eye candy stuff that it would appear most people judge a whole new OS by :lol: Any actual improvements in hardware support, stability, security and performance? I'd be interested to know :)
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/default.aspx
Cool, I'll have a read of that in my lunch later, and wait to see what experiences people have real-world :D
The built in wallpaper changer is a gimick though :rolleyes:
Actually, it's 'features' like that which interests your average user.

There are plenty of normal people out there who have wondered to themselves, "Hey, I've got all these pictures. Why can I only have one as my desktop?". They invariably then go off and download some tool from the internet to do a simple job liek that only to find their computer running slow, loaded with malware, etc.

I can see that your wallpaper changing automatically periodically is a really nice fringe benefit to most people.

An operating system is supposed to be about benefiting the user, making their life easier.
True enough - but how long before "vendors" of automatic wallpaper changing software are suing MS for "damaging" their business ;)
True enough - but how long before "vendors" of automatic wallpaper changing software are suing MS for "damaging" their business ;)
Which is, IMO, wrong. While I don't like the dominant position that Microsoft employs, I certainly don't like buying an OS only to have to install a load of basic components, such as media players, to get it to work.

There is a fine lien between adding and developing new features that a user wants and abusing ones place in the market.

I will say, however, that how mcuh faster does a fresh OS install run usually? Loads! Okay, that's not a scientific statement but we all know that the minute you start installing stuff on your Windows is when it starts to go clunky and slow. Maybe that's because Microsoft don't like people playing around with their code or maybe it's simply because it's better for your average user to have an OS in an 'as new' state.
Which is, IMO, wrong. While I don't like the dominant position that Microsoft employs, I certainly don't like buying an OS only to have to install a load of basic components, such as media players, to get it to work.

There is a fine lien between adding and developing new features that a user wants and abusing ones place in the market.
Oh, I completely agree with you - but it's usually what does happen whenever MS add new features :(

I will say, however, that how mcuh faster does a fresh OS install run usually? Loads! Okay, that's not a scientific statement but we all know that the minute you start installing stuff on your Windows is when it starts to go clunky and slow. Maybe that's because Microsoft don't like people playing around with their code or maybe it's simply because it's better for your average user to have an OS in an 'as new' state.
True enough - new installs are always loads quicker - best ways to slow windows down is to add it to a domain and install software. Registry and disk fragmentation only seem to play a small part in that however. One thing not many users give any though to is how big their user profile is and this can make a massive difference.
Having tried Windows 7 it is a damn site faster than Vista - like Azrael says all the good stuff has happened under the hood (faster smaller kernel etc) but some of the UI improvements are very good.

Do NOT try it on a laptop though - there is very limited driver support at the moment ;)
Loading it on an old HP desktop (1.6 gig processor and 512 ram, bit below min spec) just to see what happens.
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