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I have just found out i am disabled

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#1 ·
I work for a school as a site manager,today i have been on a course for DDA all to do with access and treatment of disabled visitors.



We had to split into groups to answer some questions...basically along the lines of who we thought was disabled...one of the questions was about a latex intolerance...i said well thats not a disability.....WRONG.

I then told the trainer that i had a nut allergy,apparently that is a disability....i tried to argue that a disability prevents you from doing something...he said well you cant eat nuts!!!!More of an inconveniance i would of thought.

Anyway it got quite heated,apparently when i apply for a job under new legislation i would have to put that i have a disability!!


I then asked if i could apply for a parking permit...sadly i wouldnt qualify.


So my question to you is Has the world gone bloody mad!!! :(
 
#34 ·
CheekyMonkey said:
For the purposes of the Act (and for that purpose only), it has to be something which will have a substantial adverse effect on one of

ĂŻ mobility;
ĂŻ manual dexterity;
ĂŻ physical co-ordination;

ĂŻ continence;
ĂŻ ability to lift, carry or otherwise move everyday objects;
ĂŻ speech, hearing or eyesight;
ĂŻ memory or ability to concentrate, learn or understand; or
ĂŻ perception of the risk of physical danger.

for 12 months or more to count as a disability
thats me.....im currently going through diagnosis as its been spotted on the course im on...(dyspraxia,aspergers and may of the associated dissorders).....this revelation has changed my life....SO MANY things now make sense....why i do things and cant do others.... :( :)
 
#32 ·
Tabbi said:
I wouldn't either, I wear glasses, my mates are left handed I wouldn't consider any of us disabled - especially as I live with and help care for a disabled person (my dad)
Im Left handed too, but genereallly only to write with, I have an allergy to work which brings me out in a hot sweat, which obviously impacts on my day to day so im disabled :lol:

I think there is a line to be drawn differentiating between an allergy and a disabilty, my grandfather is disabled so im not making fun at all.

I do think the world has gone a bit mad, if you have osgood schlatters disease i think you could be disabled as it effects the joints, I have it and cant kneal on my left knee, had it operated on but its come back, still doesnt make me disabled though.
 
#31 ·
Iain_M said:
Some teachers seem to have gone mad at least.

Being a left handed glasses waerer that uses a walking stick to get around at times I wouldn't even think of myself being disabled.
I wouldn't either, I wear glasses, my mates are left handed I wouldn't consider any of us disabled - especially as I live with and help care for a disabled person (my dad)
 
#30 ·
Tabbi said:
i was taught about disabilities at college recently as part of my childcare course and apparently you are disabled if you are left-handed or wear glasses/contacts etc

so yeah I think the world has gone mad
Some teachers seem to have gone mad at least.

Being a left handed glasses waerer that uses a walking stick to get around at times I wouldn't even think of myself being disabled.
 
#27 ·
Ballbag said:
I lost my left eye due to a tumour when i was a child and i'm not registered as disabled and frankly i wouldn't want to be thanks. :mad:
but presumably you wouldn't want to be discriminated against for this (or any other) reason either though ?

Some people are mixing 2 things together here though - the DDA is not about being "registered disabled", its (very broadly) about not being discriminated against on the grounds of some long lasting condition that makes life more difficult
 
#25 ·
subdub said:
I am not sure what is extreme but if i eat a nut,i will die.

Still not a disability though....just death.
For the purposes of the Act (and for that purpose only), it has to be something which will have a substantial adverse effect on one of

ĂŻ mobility;
ĂŻ manual dexterity;
ĂŻ physical co-ordination;
ĂŻ continence;
ĂŻ ability to lift, carry or otherwise move everyday objects;
ĂŻ speech, hearing or eyesight;
ĂŻ memory or ability to concentrate, learn or understand; or
ĂŻ perception of the risk of physical danger.

for 12 months or more to count as a disability
 
#24 ·
invalidusername said:
It has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with treating people fairly. When did fairness become something to be derided?
absolutely

I have spent the last 4 working days in the Employment Tribunal, representing someone who has learned how to manage a very serious mental impairment that 40 years ago could only be 'treated' by permanent incarceration in an asylum

its very easy to whine 'political correctness' and undermine an enormously important piece of legislation

I will admit that I knew little about it till I agreed to take this case on, but I have been humbled this week, no mistake, by this person and see things very differently to a month ago
 
#20 ·
Actually you're not required to declare any disability when applying for a job. But, should you get the job and need the employer to make adjustments, such as an orthopedic chair, or voice recognition software, then you obviously need to declare your disability. also should you need time off for medical appointments then you'd need to declare your disability then. I doubt a food intolerance or allergy would be considered under the dda, apart from extreme cases.
 
#17 ·
invalidusername said:
It has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with treating people fairly. When did fairness become something to be derided?
I agree....the bloke was a tit.I have no intentions of working in a nut factory,so no one will ever feel they have to treat me fairly!
 
#13 ·
DarkHorse said:
ok so the worlds not mad just the guy taking the course!

If people started treating things like nut allegies as dissabilities wouldn't it end up trivialising more serious dissabilities?

PS sorry about the spelling!
absolutely, some are sensible, ie if you have a latex allergy, or you develop one, your employer should provide a suitable alternative if yoiur job requires you to wear gloves and if they are provided to everyone else, ie you then aren't being treated different to anyone else.
People aren't treating them as disabilities, it just allows people who have different needs to be catered for the same as people who don't.
eg, i know a typist who can't see the colour red on a white background at all. Most people mark typing amendments in red, but to allow her to do her job, something else is used.
Sounds small and trivial, but its a huge impairment on her job otherwise, which incidentally she can do as well as anyone else.

It doesn't trivialise anything really in the context of the act, as it's aim is to ensure that everyone are allowed the same access, work benefits etc
 
#12 ·
DarkHorse said:
ok so the worlds not mad just the guy taking the course!

If people started treating things like nut allegies as dissabilities wouldn't it end up trivialising more serious dissabilities?

PS sorry about the spelling!
We have had a problem at school where a child has gluten intolerance and is entitled to school meals....however the catering firm refused to supply a gluten free option....so the pupils mother claims he is being discriminated against...which i suppose to a degree he is...is that a disability?I think it a bit o a grey area!
 
#11 ·
Of course, schools do have a particular responsibility as far as nut allergies (etc) of pupils goes, and a parent should certainly be registering with the school so that they aren't fed anything (either directly, or through cross-contamination) that would cause the child harm.

But that isn't the same as the child being registered disabled. I doubt if this is what the trainer was on about (but as you work in a school, you never know). More likely to be trying to get people to understand that people with a disability aren't just people in wheelchairs. If this was the case, it wasn't very well done on his/her part, was it!
 
#10 ·
Skello said:
No the world hasn't gone mad, the act is there to protect the welfare of disabled people and people who have "a physical or mental impairment which has a substantial or long term (min 12 mths) adverse effect on the persons ability to undertake their day to day activities." based from the point of diagnosis.

Basically, if someone becomes ill, but cannot be registered disabled, they are still covered under the act and cannot be discriminated against.

DDA doesn't specify what disibilities are, it merely states what conditions the Disability Discrimination 05 act applies to.
ie, under DDA, following 2005 amendments, people with long term illnesses, such as cancer, HIV, MS etc are covered by its provisions.

From my understanding of the act (as a chartered surveyor who ocasionally undertakes DDA audits) allergies very rarely fall into this and the act is about reasonableness and interpretation.
I believe the person who stated you are 'disabled' is substantially mis-informed.
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ok so the worlds not mad just the guy taking the course!

If people started treating things like nut allegies as dissabilities wouldn't it end up trivialising more serious dissabilities?

PS sorry about the spelling!